Israel backed by army of cyber-soldiers

In that case I would gladly take some blow.

I don't see the need for cocaine to be bought into this situation. ;)

A cocaine joke in the middle of the heat wave... great twist...

VS. The Party Of God... irony on so many levels its sad.... really sad.

Not in Israel where it is blocked by Cyber Patrol. We can get it they cant. If you have Cyber Patrol Imstalled

Keld & Marilyn L - to Keld's observations above one could add that "Zionism" is anti-thetical to proper Orthodox Judaism and the Torah and indeed is regarded by properly orthodox Jews as blasphemous and heretical.

"Zionism" cannot and should not be equated with Jews, Judaism or, from a strict human rights perspective, with Israel or Israelis either. Thus roughly half of Israeli Jews are "secular" and only a very small proportion are properly Orthodox. Further, 20% of the Israeli population are "non-Jewish" and subject to disgusting, Nazi-style, RACIST discrimination that violates International Human Rights Conventions and the standards of normal. decent people.

What are the racist Zionists going to do when there is a majority of Israeli non-Jews or there is a majority of non-racist Israelis? More ethnic cleansing? Non-racist Jewish Israelis declared to be non-Aryan (oops, non-Jewish) and put in prison indefinitely like International human rights hero Mordechai Vanunu, deported or ethnically cleansed?

From an agnostic/atheist Humanist perspective, Zionism is racist in theory and violent, dishonest and genocidal in practice (e.g. the current Israeli crucifixion of Lebanon and Palestine), grossly violating the Geneva, Hague, Universal Human Rights and Rights of the Child Conventions. Further, Zionism grossly violates the 3 millennium Jewish humanitarian tradition that is the greatest contribution of the Jewish People to humanity.

one could add that "Zionism" is anti-thetical to proper Orthodox Judaism and the Torah and indeed is regarded by properly orthodox Jews as blasphemous and heretical.

Who are you to say what is proper Jewish Theology. Does an Orthodox Jew's faith qualify as being "proper" only when he agrees with Gideon Polya's Interim Peace Plan and subscribes to the globalavoidablemortality RSS feed? How about leaving the religious philosophy and beliefs of others up to those who are actually familiar with the textual sources and traditions.

I know that you can trot out your links to the Satmar Rebbe. His opinions that the Jews should not return to Israel before the coming of the messiah are valid opinions. However, they are definitely in the minority when it comes to the breadth of opinions of the leading Jewish sages over the past two thousand years. And even those Orthodox Jews who are against of pre-Messianic "Zionism" are only viewing this as a postponement of the prophetic calls and divine promises for Jews to return to Israel that take a central role in Jewish tradition.

Who are you to say what is proper Jewish Theology.

I know it is a rhetorical question, and hence not ended with a question mark, but to clear things up a bit I have to say I do not think Gideon Polya is lecturing on Judaism. He is just stating the commonly known fact - or what should be a commonly known fact - that Orthodox Jews generally do not believe that the Israel that exist today is the fulfillment of the prophesies of the resurrection of the Israel described in the Torah.

that Orthodox Jews generally do not believe that the Israel that exist today is the fulfillment of the prophesies of the resurrection of the Israel described in the Torah.

Partially correct. No one views today's state as the final fulfillment of prophecies. After all, it is a secular state that opposes Jewish religious practices with some level of consistency. However, a large segment of the worldwide Orthodox Jewry has the view that although the Israel that exists today is not a fulfillment of the prophesies of the Final Redemption described in the Torah, it is legitimate to view it and celbrate it as the beginning of the Redemptive process. Another large segment does not share this view, but still says that it is a commendable (and some say obligatory) practice for a Jew to live in Israel. These views (especially the second, which is included in the first) are confirmed by nearly all important Jewish sages over the past two thousand years. Both of these views are a form a Zionism that Gideon refers to as being racist. Only a small minority of Orthodox Jews (basically Satmar and their offshoots) believe that Jews do not belong in Israel before the Messiah comes. Although this is a belief that is cited in the Babylonian Talmud (Tractate Ketubot, 110b), it is the minority opinion, and despite what Gideon has to say, is not represntative of mainstream Orthodox Judaism.

GO … KB :) 

You can take it as such if you like. I'm in a generous mood.

I can browse the pages in any browser. But I cannot put the links in an email and have it reach it's target recipient. It gets deleted on it's way or ends up in people's spam folders. It's not about email clients either, it's about these two spam registers telling spam filters around the world to give the link 7.1 spam points - usually any email with more than 5 points gets deleted automatically. May very well be partly due to the violent graphic content.

I didn't try the Newsvine emailing function. I used my regular email which uses SpamAssassin. This implementation uses certain registers of spammers, banned links, banned servers etc. along with a local statistical analysis of spam probability; ie the ones listed in the quote. They seem to be pretty open about how they put together their lists. I'm not sure what to think. Perhaps these people just think photos of dead children should be censored?

The link is listed in the SURBL blacklist. More then likely the link mentioned has been spammed out by someone and that got it blacklisted.

From the SURBL FAQ:

SURBLs differ from most other RBLs in that they're used to detect spam based on message body URIs (usually web sites). Unlike most other RBLs, SURBLs are not meant to identify spam senders by their message headers or connection IP addresses. Instead they allow you to identify messages by the spam sites mentioned in their message bodies.

...left/right, anti/pro-Israel, democrat/republican, artist/business...

To me it seems some people have a very weird and ill informed attitude to this crisis!!!

I agree. Except of those who are uninformed, a large number feels like they have to take a stand, which is where all the problems come from. Unless you are suggesting that I am one of those people, in which case I still agree and would welcome all information that might correct my ignorance.

I am suggesting that the way you divide folks into categories doesn't really make sense.

Or perhaps everyone you know are right wing, pro-Israel, republican businessmen?

Personally: left? check! anti-Israel? no way. Democrat? Live in a better democracy than the american one and would certainly not vote democrat if they existed here! Artist? Well, that would be flattering! What do you think of this piece?

Of course there are exceptions. But it seem to be certain stereotypes that hold true in many cases from my experience.

Benno, I have to think on the piece. As someone who worked as a volunteer in NYC after 9/11, the first thought that comes to mind: "offensive patronizing bull@!$%#". Just to avoid a misunderstanding: no, I wasn't working clearing the rubble in the city - there was a makeshift center that would accept and distribute donations on the West Side Highway.

Hey, you asked.

Er. I was working in that center. Sorry, when I get angry, my writing becomes a bit messy.